[Rejected] LionFlop

[Spooky Rain Frog]

As you approach, you are unnerved by their smoldering gazes.

You know that your being judged for all your worth, but your detirmined to make your case. Its not every day that cats try to rencarnate, and your tired of being trapped here. Perhaps your first life didnt go as planned.. but the next one is going to be better.

All you have to do is answer them.

"What makes you stand out from the rest of the cats who want another chance?"

LIONFLOP
THE GOLDEN GIANT

The Giant To Stepped Into Their Sights, Then The Words Came To His Floppy Ears.

What Makes Me Stand Out? Well, Maybe I Dont Deserve To Be Reincarnated, Sure. Yeah, Its What I Kinda Want. Im No Better Than The Cat Before Or The Cat After Me. He Was Quiet For A Long Moment. You Dont Wish To Hear Me Ramble On, Though. I Guess I Just Want A Chance At A Better Life. Ya Know, LionFlop, The Murderer Hidden As A Kind Tom. ShadowClans Oddest Warrior, Wanting A Good Life. Yeah, Sure That Might Not Happen Today. Hell, I Might Have One Of The Lowest Chances Of Having This Happen. He Stared At Their Half Hidden Forms. The Covenant Of The Sky, Was It? Who Knew. Who Ca- No. Everyone Cared. Who Cared If He Rotted Away. Who Cared If He Was Reborn. It Was Just A Little Wish. A Tiny Spark Of Hope, Trying To Grow In A Void Of Wishes That Would Never Come True. Of Dispare. Of Deppression. Yeah, That Would Of Been A Suprise To The Kits He Hung Out With. Not Him. But I Ask You, Hear Me Out. I Just Want A Good Life, Where My Family I Didnt Feel I Had To Kill. A Mentor That Didnt Teach Me To Do So. A Clan That I Could Serve The Best I Could, No Guilt That Held Me Back Like Fangs Latching In My Flesh. His Head Scaned For A Flash Of Fangs, His Ears Listening For A Voice, His Nose Trying To Find A Familiar Scent. Why Was He Trying To Find A Scent? Who Knew. Not Lionflop.

[Kix]

Dustpoppy
Dark Forest

Out of the mist from behind Lionflop came the dark-tanned cat, making her way around the other to take a spot in front of the request seeker. Bright blue eyes had regarded them with a hint of annoyance as she sat there in a bit of silence. How many times did they have to sit here and listen to these cats spew the same thing like a kit hyped up in the morning. ”You’re correct in that manner, you do indeed have the lowest chance” that is what she decided to start with. Nothing this one was saying was proving to be any good reason for them to give this welp another try in the world of the living. She continued to sit there and listen to this tom ramble on about tidbits that didn’t sway her. ”If I had a mouse for every cat that wanted a good life I'd be set for eternity which isn’t a lot but it's annoying that it’s happening. You say you want a good life, but what’s stopped you from doing so from the start of your previous life? You had control of your own life yet you seemed to have let others lead it for you.” thats at least what she was getting when looking into the others' past. A cat who let himself be used like a puppet to have the strings snap and the puppet continued with its act. ”Why should you go back when you’ll probably repeat it all over again, how do intend to make sure you won’t when you won’t have any memories of your past?” one may forget their history but instincts surely would persist with the mind.

@Desert Rain Frog

[Rani]

Dewkit | Female + She/Her | StarClan
A small, fluffy grey kit with blue eyes and a splash of white on her face.

Wow this bid for life anew was worse then Dewkit usually saw and that was impressive considering how sad some of the reasoning got. The kit, wise far beyond his body, emerged from the mist a scornful look on his face as his lip curled.
"So let me get this straight. You a full grown adult warrior with a mate went out and murdered several innocent cats with no rhyme or reason for their deaths, just really killing because they happened to cross your path. Because you felt forced to by your family and mentor?"
A beat as the words hung in the air, hopefully sinking in to Lionflop about how insane it sounded before continuing.
"How pathetic. To kill is a act not taken lightly but even for me it can be forgivable if for a reason, but you had none but the deaths itself. The sum total of your life is nothing more then that of a rabid fox with no accolades or accomplishments to make you worth anything to speak of, much less to be given the gift of a second chance.

Further, you, an adult, were so weak minded and pathetic you were able to be bullied and peer pressured into this, displaying a frankly ridiculous weakness of self. You killed for no reason but that you were told, or rather were you even told to do so and not just taught how to kill and thought you needed to? Like some sort of dog preforming tricks it thinks its owner wants for a treat. Answer me that."


The kittens ears pinned as he scoffed, looking over a tom who got to live far far longer then he did but somehow did less with himself then a lot of apprentices the kit had seen.


"With all those.... faults of yours in mind why would we give you a second chance? What reasoning could you possibly give us that makes you worth such a precious gift of another life, what are you worth beyond a pitiful sob story of how sad your life was that made you murder cats for no good reason."
If Lionflop was interesting and showed passion things might be different, life always needed souls that shone above the throng, but his entire life proved he did not have that, had no spine to stand on his own ideals or desires. And his sob story wasnt enough either so he'd need reasoning he was worth this.


@Desert Rain Frog @Kix @Oliver

[Dolomedes]

Daisypool
Starclan

Daisypool considered herself a kind cat, she liked to believe that she was. Was the start of her thought process as she padded from the mist after her fellow spirits, listening to the warrior that has stepped forth in front of the covenant, and then to Dustpoppy and Dewkit. She offered a small smile and a polite nod in both of their directions before she settled beside them to face Lionflop. She liked to think that she was lenient, she didn't like denying a second to chance to those you truly wish to have such a thing... but Lionflop... Daisypool wasn't so willing to disregard his crimes, not with how little he has even brought them up. Not showing remorse for those he sent into an early grave, one of which had been such a young and promising apprentice.

It made the poor molly's heart squeeze with dismay even thinking about it now. Daisypool listened to the other spirits as they spoke their truths and questions and the Molly was inclined to agree with them. "Lionflop, dear, I feel for you. I understand how often it seems that a cat has to grow up under older cats that seem to foster the worst, that seem to not care, that neglect. I hate it. But I can not excuse the murders that you committed. Not when you showed such amazing ability to move on from your past, that you were able to start a new without your family or mentor hanging over your shoulder.. do you remember your kindness with Thrushkit, your patience with Russetpaw? With Rookpaw?"

"Why couldn't you have extended that kindness to Beanpaw, the apprentice you killed, or to Dewpaw the one you would've. What about every other cat that you felled under your paws, the ones you attempted. Why is it that you should be able to return, after being killed as a threat to your clan, and the cats you killed unjustifiably shouldn't." Daisypool paused after those words, getting choked up just slightly at the mentions of death but especially so when mentioning Beanpaw and Dewpaw.. Not to mention Silverpaw, the repeating cycle of abuse. She would bring that up next if needed, but for now she wanted to hear what could have possibly justified the death and traumatizing of such young apprentices. Nothing. That was her opinion, nothing that those two did could've called for what Lionflop did to them.

[ @Desert Rain Frog | @Rani | @Kix ]
[ I think I did this right? If I do something wrong or ooc for Daisy just bonk me and I'll edit ]

[Spooky Rain Frog]

LIONFLOP
THE GOLDEN GIANT

He Stood There, Listening Carefully To The First Cat. Thats The Problem. Ive Thought That Over And Not Even I Know That Answer. Woukd I Kill Again? Id Hope Not, But... He Stopped Talking. The Next Cat, A Small Kit, Began Talking. He Listened Carefully Once More, Listening To The Truth The Spat So Aggressively. Your Right. I Shouldnt Of Killed Those Cats, But A Simple Sorry Cannot, Will Not, Bring And Of Them Back. A Murderer Cannot Be Forgiven With A Sob Story. Onto The Next Cat, One With A Kinder Voice. But, Like The Last Two, Talked On About Murders And That Poor Apprentice? Beanpaw? ... I Was Hoping That Thrushkit, Russetpaw, And Rookpaw, Along With My Mate Would Turn Me Off That Path But I Was Wrong. And I Didnt Know That The Smal- Beanpaw - Was An Apprentice. I Thought They Were A Random Loner. And I Wasnt Going To Dish The Same Fate To Dewpaw. Just Hopefully Get Them To Stay Quiet. Dont Know WhyThough, Because I Deserve To Be Here. He Didnt Dare Sit. If He Sat, Would He Show A Weakness Of Some Kind? He Didnt Want To Look Weak. Not When Before DawnStars Eyes, Not Before Theirs.

@Oliver @Rani @Kix

[Spooky Rain Frog]

BUMPO HIII LOVELY STIKIES AND NON STINKIES

[Kix]

Dustpoppy
Dark Forest

She didn’t quite understand how this one continued to prove why they shouldn't be given a second chance. Everything being said here was digging this one further into their grave, nothing worthwhile. ” You're proving nothing to us, nothing but letting peer pressure push you whichever way it sought after. Sending you back even with a new start on life and no memories would prove fruitless, you might end up being spineless in that life like you were in this one” Dustpoppy would have loved to point out the flaw in the others words but that had been an answer for either Dewkit or Daisypool. ”If you are going to be spineless and let others older than you command your life and you may acknowledge that you did wrong but you still let others sway your actions, I see no point in wasting time sending you back for a second chance if it's just going to repeat like an endless cycle" Dustpoppy didn't care about the fact the other killed cats, it lied on the fact that there's no reason behind the kills. The senseless killing wasn't worth anything if it just brought one back to the same fate. "My answer is no, not when you'd possibly repeat your history and end up here again"

@Rani @Oliver @Desert Rain Frog

[Rani]

Dewkit | Female + She/Her | StarClan

A small, fluffy grey kit with blue eyes and a splash of white on her face.

Lionflops defense, if it could even be called that, flopped. Ironic.

He gave no real strong reason he should go back despite his many flaws and just seemed to wallow in his mistakes without even a declaration of what he planned to do with his potential new life. No plans for good or bad or greatness just..... Admissions of guilt.

Perhaps that was something, the covenant liked cats to admit to and face their wrongdoings so they could grow above and better then them, but then again Lionflop had stopped at the first part. He'd had reasons to change, be better and different in life and yet didnt and now even acknowledgement of flaws and a dedication to not repeat his past would not be enough. The covenant demanded more to go back after all, not just the bare minimum.

Admission, real regret, recompense, change, plans, passion. Lionflop had stopped at two.


Dewkit did not feel the need to justify his refusal after Dustpoppy, expression hard.
"There is nothing about you that is worth such a gift. I reject your bid as well and so without Daisypool even needing to vote the decision is made. You shall not go back, if you require all three of us to tell you how pathetic we find you feel free to stick around for her verdict but I for one see no reason to linger.

Perhaps if you have the spine to try again someday I'd advise you first try and make amends to those you've wronged and come to us with more substance before you waste any more of our time. However I seriously doubt you have it in you."
With that the kitten turned and disappeared into the mist not even bothering to look back at Lionflop as he did. The tom would not be returning to life and there'd be no second chance here today.

@Kix @Oliver. @Desert Rain Frog (oliver if daisy wants to pipe up feel free but Ill be altering thread title on the23rd)