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BEAR.
November 26th, 2019, 08:19 PM
Allegiances Survey

With a flood of active high ranks and rosters in use for all the Clans, the staff has been looking into reintroducing the allegiances. There is a method that might work with Google Spreadsheets, but before we go too far into it we'd like your feedback!

Reducing the Allegiances

Ideally, we would like to reduce the allegiances to only include cats active in the Clan to provide an accurate Clan count for leader reference and to help make decisions when it comes to plots (including who wins battles!)

The issue comes into play when users have a bunch of characters in every Clan-- most to the point where they are largely inactive or unused. It's hard to keep up with characters when you have a lot of them, and it throws Clan counts off when these characters sit on the Clan lists and do nothing to provide for their Clan. Some of these characters even get assigned to patrols and still aren't roleplayed.

So, to counter this we would like to reduce the number of characters a roleplayer can have to five cats total per Clan, meaning you could still have up to twenty Clan cats throughout all the Clans and an unlimited amount of outsiders.

Characters over this would not be included on the allegiances or be considered part of the Clan. Additionally, characters not used within two weeks will likely be removed from the allegiances (though this is dependent on the leader!) and be considered missing or deceased until they resumed being roleplayed or are confirmed dead.

How the Allegiances Will Work

CLICK HERE FOR AN EXAMPLE! (http://warriorcatsonline.com/forums/misc.php?do=page&template=clans)

If you've clicked the link above, you'll see we've embedded a spreadsheet onto the site.

Each 'tab' switches to a list for each Clan, then a Patrol Posting for all the Clans, and finally a Missing section for characters who've gone inactive.

Leaders and deputies will primarily be responsible for keeping their parts of the list updated, as well as approving new characters coming into the Clan. Patrol postings will be updated after deputies send out patrols for that week. We plan on including leaderboards to help keep track of how active the Clans are with patrols and what characters frequently do them.

The Missing tab is where characters removed from the main list go. These characters will still be considered a part of the Clan, but since they're missing you can fill their slot with a new character if you wish. Of course, if you wanted a 'missing' cat to return, you'd need to remove one of your current characters if your fifth slot is already in use.

Pros of this update:

- An accurate Clan count! While the rosters try to keep tabs on their Clan-mates, they are solely for people interested in being placed on patrols or being assigned mentors/apprentices. Many users opt to not include their characters on this, throwing off the number of how many cats are actually in each Clan.

- Provides a more realistic roleplay! In the books, the Clans were tight-knitted in the sense if you lived in the Clan, you know your Clan-mates fairly well. WCO lacks that with a surge of dozens of hardly used characters that come and go in waves. By reducing that number, you gain a bustling community of Clan-mates who don't need to introduce themselves to cats within their own Clan.

- Characters will be active and have a better chance to make meaningful relationships with other cats!

- Detecting intruders will be more feasible, as cats outside of the allegiances will not be considered part of the Clan.

- Assist in plot decisions, as larger Clans will have a better chance of winning battles over smaller Clans. Clan activity is a crucial part in determining the results of battles. This will also help leaders keep track of who should be participating in plots and act accordingly if characters don't show up.

- Leaders and their deputies will be given access to the document, so they are able to maintain their own Clan's list. Staff will also have access and be able to lend a hand if some high ranks are unable to maintain their allegiances.

- This would replace Clan Rosters, meaning all characters on this list are fair game to be placed on patrols. Patrol postings will also be included on this for easy reference.

Cons of this update:

- Characters will have to be accepted into Clans to ensure users aren't going over their character limit. Leaders would be responsible for accepting cats.

- Semi-active users may have some issues being active enough with their cats to avoid them 'going missing.'

- Less characters, meaning roleplayers exceeding 5 cats per Clan will have to make some decisions on who they want to keep and develop.


Warrior Cats Online wouldn't be itself if we forced this on you guys! Before we do anything, we'd like your feedback on the poll provided. If you feel like voicing your thoughts below, you're free to! Comments are always open. :heartbounce:

marshy
November 27th, 2019, 08:18 AM
I don't really have a preference for allegiances, I feel WCO could be with them or without them, It will probably be pretty cool, being able to see every cat in every clan.

k!ngk3s
November 27th, 2019, 01:36 PM
I have no preference. I say that unused cats should not "go missing" but can just be put in a inactive slot instead of "missing". That way it would less confusing if a cat did go missing and cats would be looking for it but if it was inactive then they are looking for nothing. Also it seems to like to much for the leaders/deptuys to handle.

BEAR.
November 27th, 2019, 01:49 PM
I have no preference. I say that unused cats should not "go missing" but can just be put in a inactive slot instead of "missing". That way it would less confusing if a cat did go missing and cats would be looking for it but if it was inactive then they are looking for nothing. Also it seems to like to much for the leaders/deptuys to handle.

Missing is the inactive slot, but IC they'd be considered missing until they are used again (in which case the Clan should question them on their whereabouts) because it's unrealistic for a character to not be used for months and still act like they've been there the whole time.

k!ngk3s
November 27th, 2019, 01:51 PM
Missing is the inactive slot, but IC they'd be considered missing until they are used again (in which case the Clan should question them on their whereabouts) because it's unrealistic for a character to not be used for months and still act like they've been there the whole time.
hm ok then.

BEAR.
November 27th, 2019, 03:56 PM
For those who voted no, we'd love to hear your thoughts! ;o

Moonraven
November 27th, 2019, 06:19 PM
I like the idea of allegiances and a limit for the number of cats. Personally I have a bad habit of getting an idea into my head, making a cat, and then never using said cat because I have other cats. A limit would help me with that and make me really think about which cats I want and don't want. I also like how organized it would be. The spreadsheet looks simple and clean-cut to me, the fact that the deputies have access to it and can help maintain it seems like a plus to me, having extra help is always nice. I think it would be good for WCO.

Dab
November 27th, 2019, 09:30 PM
Really, I just hate the idea of a character max... There are so many different personas I wanna RP that I wouldn't get to do with a character max!

BEAR.
November 27th, 2019, 09:42 PM
Really, I just hate the idea of a character max... There are so many different personas I wanna RP that I wouldn't get to do with a character max!

Not sure how it'd stop you! 5 characters in each Clan with an unlimited amount of outsiders isn't that restraining. :)

Blazepaw
November 28th, 2019, 12:18 AM
I’ve always loved how WCO, unlike many sites, never had a character limit. I do however like the idea of allegiances. As long as I can switch up my slots from time to time, I’m good.

BEAR.
November 28th, 2019, 12:24 AM
I’ve always loved how WCO, unlike many sites, never had a character limit. I do however like the idea of allegiances. As long as I can switch up my slots from time to time, I’m good.

Yep, you'd be able to do that! :)

We don't want anyone to kill their characters for this or erase them-- we just want the active characters you are motivated rp to be the ones involved in the Clans! It's pointless and super hard to keep track of Clan counts when so many people come and go with dozens of mostly unused characters. If you're feeling one character and not another, you can have them be moved to missing while the one you want to rp remains on the allegiance as a productive member of the Clan.

Missing cats aren't dead, they're just inactive and would be considering missing in roleplay since they're not in use (and therefore not interacting with anyone or doing patrols.) Once you swap them back, you might need an IC reason for their disappearance (like being captured by Twolegs) but the leader probably won't give them too much grief over it.

wren
November 28th, 2019, 02:36 PM
For those of us who travel and would be gone for long periods of time or simply just not have the opportunity to post for a set amount of days would this need to be reported to those keeping tabs on missing cats? Or would they go missing during this time and have to get accepted following their return?

BEAR.
November 28th, 2019, 02:38 PM
For those of us who travel and would be gone for long periods of time or simply just not have the opportunity to post for a set amount of days would this need to be reported to those keeping tabs on missing cats? Or would they go missing during this time and have to get accepted following their return?

Character activity would be checked every two weeks. If you haven't made one post with the character in that time, they would be placed into missing and you would need to have them be accepted upon your return.

Vessel
November 28th, 2019, 06:40 PM
Would that policy be null and void if a character´s owner was on a hiatus, or would they come back to all their cats missing?

BEAR.
November 28th, 2019, 06:42 PM
Would that policy be null and void if a character´s owner was on a hiatus, or would they come back to all their cats missing?

It applies to everyone regardless of hiatus.

Us knowing you're gone because of a RL vacation doesn't mean our characters would, therefore they would be missing. :)

Vessel
November 28th, 2019, 06:53 PM
It applies to everyone regardless of hiatus.

Us knowing you're gone because of a RL vacation doesn't mean our characters would, therefore they would be missing. :)

Oh, okay. :wut:

BEAR.
November 28th, 2019, 06:55 PM
Oh, okay. :wut:

Not sure what that face is for, as a reminder people have TWO weeks to make one post for the character to remain on the allegiances.

Leaders might decide to punish the cat if literally that's all they're doing since they'd be sitting around, basically-- but they wouldn't be tagged under missing or inactive.

Vessel
November 28th, 2019, 07:04 PM
Not sure what that face is for, as a reminder people have TWO weeks to make one post for the character to remain on the allegiances.

Leaders might decide to punish the cat if literally that's all they're doing since they'd be sitting around, basically-- but they wouldn't be tagged under missing or inactive.

Oh-

Face= I´m a pessimist here and I´m like:

-What if I´m in a car accident or likewise and go to the hospital for a while and I can´t get on

-What if my city loses all internet for two weeks

And a bunch of other things that I´m too lazy to list!

Pay no attention to my worrisome antics though, just explanin´ the face to make sure no one thinks I´m a whiner!

BEAR.
November 28th, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oh-

Face= I´m a pessimist here and I´m like:

-What if I´m in a car accident or likewise and go to the hospital for a while and I can´t get on

-What if my city loses all internet for two weeks

And a bunch of other things that I´m too lazy to list!

Pay no attention to my worrisome antics though, just explanin´ the face to make sure no one thinks I´m a whiner!

Then you'd just have to come back when you can and have your characters get re-approved by the leader. It's not like your character is being exiled or anything, they've just disappeared and the Clan doesn't know where they went or why. The Clan leader will probably just want to know where they went and debrief them on anything important that happened in their absence.

Vessel
November 28th, 2019, 07:13 PM
Then you'd just have to come back when you can and have your characters get re-approved by the leader. It's not like your character is being exiled or anything, they've just disappeared and the Clan doesn't know where they went or why. The Clan leader will probably just want to know where they went and debrief them on anything important that happened in their absence.

Alrighty then!

nykyrian
November 30th, 2019, 11:44 PM
I really like this idea

BEAR.
December 20th, 2019, 11:15 AM
I like the idea of a character max, but I have so many lovable characters and half baked ideas. The character max would be good, but I feel that five may be a little bit restrictive. Even one or two more, a 6-7 cat max would feel less restrictive.

It's 5 per Clan, so you could still have up to 20 active Clan cats at a time and an unlimited amount of outsiders!

You can also swap cats out depending on who you feel like rping, like I've mentioned in previous posts-- the only penalty is your inactive characters would go 'missing' until you decide to swap them again.

Stagkit
February 2nd, 2020, 05:09 PM
Thanks! Very helpful

Stagkit
February 2nd, 2020, 05:13 PM
I think im in luck