The villain is the goosefeather

[Darky]

So if you read bluestar and crookstar books you know the villains thisleclaw and mapleshade but it isn't them. Its Goosefeather, he put pressure on bluestar to were she gave away her kits at what cost, telling the leader about what would happen? And for crookstar he wouldn't have met mapleshade if he was never scared by goose so goosefeather screwed up his life. How can you stand your nieces and nephew going away and one dying! He's crazy yet so put in so we don't hear a lot about this. He freaking got moonflower killed over a flase prophecy.

[wickedvirtues]

Originally Posted by Darky

So if you read bluestar and crookstar books you know the villains thisleclaw and mapleshade but it isn't them. Its Goosefeather, he put pressure on bluestar to were she gave away her kits at what cost, telling the leader about what would happen? And for crookstar he wouldn't have met mapleshade if he was never scared by goose so goosefeather screwed up his life. How can you stand your nieces and nephew going away and one dying! He's crazy yet so put in so we don't hear a lot about this. He freaking got moonflower killed over a flase prophecy.

I mean, it's true, but
"Goosekit is a ThunderClan cat with a very special gift - he can see things no other cat can see, such as dead ancestors in camp and visions of the future. However, this interferes with Goosekit's normal life. Can he see this as a gift, or as a curse?"

I haven't read his SE, but from what I've seen, he basically went crazy. Like, insane. So perhaps that's why?

[Darky]

Originally Posted by CandyFlossCat

I mean, it's true, but
"Goosekit is a ThunderClan cat with a very special gift - he can see things no other cat can see, such as dead ancestors in camp and visions of the future. However, this interferes with Goosekit's normal life. Can he see this as a gift, or as a curse?"

I haven't read his SE, but from what I've seen, he basically went crazy. Like, insane. So perhaps that's why?

True true but I just hate him, look at moonflower now!

[wickedvirtues]

Originally Posted by Darky

True true but I just hate him, look at moonflower now!

Moonflower was Bluekit's mother..who was killed by Hawk-something-or-other..but then again Goose did tell them to invade..so yeah, he sort of did kill Moon.

[Darky]

Originally Posted by CandyFlossCat

Moonflower was Bluekit's mother..who was killed by Hawk-something-or-other..but then again Goose did tell them to invade..so yeah, he sort of did kill Moon.

Exactly and if he never scared crookstar he would had never met mapleshade and his kits would still be alive.

[BEAR.]

Originally Posted by Darky

Exactly and if he never scared crookstar he would had never met mapleshade and his kits would still be alive.

Crookedstar meeting Mapleshade had nothing to do with his family dying. Those were coincidences Mapleshade used to try to manipulate him into obeying her.

[Darky]

Originally Posted by Mad King

Crookedstar meeting Mapleshade had nothing to do with his family dying. Those were coincidences Mapleshade used to try to manipulate him into obeying her.

That is true but mapleshade was the cause of this family dying. Crookstar did blame goosefeather and you could reason with him about goosefeather after you read bluestar prophecy.

[Zan Partizanne]

Once again MapleShade had no power over CrookedStars family's deaths they were coincidences she was using to try and gain power over him. GooseFeather himself went insane leading to him to having false visions and knowing that PineStar would abandon them and that TigerStar would become what he became he couldn't handle the pressure anymore and just broke.

[aleka!]

First off, he never actually directly killed anyone.
It's not his fault when Crookedstar broke his jaw, since all he really did was chase them- and Crookedstar did confront him, which he really could of avoided in the first place. There's also the fact that Moonflower's mate did literally try to kill Goosefeather by something that had a badger. Not to mention the fact that he can literally SEE and talk to the dead, and visions and prophecies constantly crowd his head. He didn't really say anything to Bluestar that made her give away her kits, that was all her because Thistleclaw was this "Evil and villainous" cat apperantly, and that was all her decision, all he did really was hint at it, including her death also. He was just really when you think about it- this kind of just broken character since the day when he was born, being slowly driven basically insane by all the gruesome visions and talking dead cats that had just existed to him.

I just... feel bad for him I guess. I really do hope that when he died, that he didn't go the the Dark Forest, but to StarClan, where he may be at peace.

[Darky]

Originally Posted by Aleka

First off, he never actually directly killed anyone.
It's not his fault when Crookedstar broke his jaw, since all he really did was chase them- and Crookedstar did confront him, which he really could of avoided in the first place. There's also the fact that Moonflower's mate did literally try to kill Goosefeather by something that had a badger. Not to mention the fact that he can literally SEE and talk to the dead, and visions and prophecies constantly crowd his head. He didn't really say anything to Bluestar that made her give away her kits, that was all her because Thistleclaw was this "Evil and villainous" cat apperantly, and that was all her decision, all he did really was hint at it, including her death also. He was just really when you think about it- this kind of just broken character since the day when he was born, being slowly driven basically insane by all the gruesome visions and talking dead cats that had just existed to him.

I just... feel bad for him I guess. I really do hope that when he died, that he didn't go the the Dark Forest, but to StarClan, where he may be at peace.

I dug to deep into the book......