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FadingEchoes November 18th, 2017 07:30 PM

Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
I'm really curious what you guys have to say.

wickedvirtues November 18th, 2017 07:32 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
Well, she did kill a cat (Apple-something), and kinda-sorta ruin Crookedstar's life, but her Clan banished her AND her kits! (Wth?) Her kits died, her mate abandoned her, so I say..both.

FadingEchoes November 18th, 2017 08:14 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
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Originally Posted by Trickster~ (Post 423673)
Well, she did kill a cat (Apple-something), and kinda-sorta ruin Crookedstar's life, but her Clan banished her AND her kits! (Wth?) Her kits died, her mate abandoned her, so I say..both.

Interesting insight, I basically think the same thing.
SPOILERS FOR MAPLESHADE'S VENGEANCE, BLUESTAR'S PROPHECY AND CROOKEDSTAR'S PROMISE
While she did put her kits in danger, it wasn't her fault.(I would blame Bluestar for Mosskit rather than Mapleshade for her kits.) Her clan made her AND her kits leave, while it wasn't the kits' fault. And then Appledusk was a jerk and totally abandoned her at Riverclan.
She did kill Appledusk, Ravenwing, and Frecklewish while she was alive. And basically all of Crookedstar's friends and family.

wickedvirtues November 18th, 2017 08:16 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
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Originally Posted by FadingEchoes (Post 423702)

Interesting insight, I basically think the same thing.
SPOILERS FOR MAPLESHADE'S VENGEANCE, BLUESTAR'S PROPHECY AND CROOKEDSTAR'S PROMISE
While she did put her kits in danger, it wasn't her fault.(I would blame Bluestar for Mosskit rather than Mapleshade for her kits.) Her clan made her AND her kits leave, while it wasn't the kits' fault. And then Appledusk was a jerk and totally abandoned her at Riverclan.
She did kill Appledusk, Ravenwing, and Frecklewish while she was alive. And basically all of Crookedstar's friends and family.

So we agree that her life sucked but she did some awful things pretty much, so she's a mix.

FadingEchoes November 18th, 2017 08:17 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
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Originally Posted by Trickster~ (Post 423704)
So we agree that her life sucked but she did some awful things pretty much, so she's a mix.

Yeah. I'm surprised we haven't had anyone say she was completely misunderstood.

wickedvirtues November 18th, 2017 08:19 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
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Originally Posted by FadingEchoes (Post 423707)

Yeah. I'm surprised we haven't had anyone say she was completely misunderstood.

Hm, yeah..guess we'll just have to wait :3

Crow November 18th, 2017 11:48 PM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
it's.. sort of hard to deny she was a murderer. she did kill cats, and even if her life was hard, that doesn't excuse anything. that said, i believe she didn't actually kill those cats in crooked's life- that's what i've heard, anyway.

BEAR. November 19th, 2017 12:25 AM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 423794)
it's.. sort of hard to deny she was a murderer. she did kill cats, and even if her life was hard, that doesn't excuse anything. that said, i believe she didn't actually kill those cats in crooked's life- that's what i've heard, anyway.

She didn't touch them. Mapleshade was aware of their early deaths and used her knowledge to manipulate Crookedstar into thinking she was the cause.

Burnpaw November 19th, 2017 12:30 AM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
It's almost a grief that sent her Spiraling into insanity... A little bit of both, a little bit of neither, and a lot of mental health issues...

wren November 19th, 2017 12:43 AM

Re: Is Mapleshade Evil or Misunderstood?
 
Well-
You see I know little about mapleshade cause I haven't got around to reading much about her. Any who despite my poor insight on the situation, I believe she wasn't in fact evil, that's how we like to see her though. They are all good cats, some just do evil things. She was once a young cat, she was once innocent, her personality was who she was and believe nothing about that is evil. Like humans none of us where born evil, none if us knew from the age if three we were going to be 'evil' I believe [ from how I view life ] she is misunderstood, if given the chance or if none if the events in her life occurred I would imagine she would have been a good cat. It's not like those troubling times in her life were a valid reason to end up murdering cats, no. I'm just simply saying she made bad choices and ended up in the dark forest. There was something else that she could have become instead of what did happen.


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