What if Tigerstar had succeeded ?

[Timbergrowl]

What do you think would have happened if Tigerstar succeeded in making TigerClan?

Who would have died and who would still be alive if this had happened?

Please give me your complete honest answer about what you think would have happened.
Sasukewolf (madness) Swiftheart

[wren]

I think personally the land would have suffered greatly, as seen before when they where killing halfbloods a mountain of preys bones. Having all of Riverclan would be too much for the territory the lives in and would be forced to relocate from the original clans territory with so much mass.


I feel as though as the clan grew more cats would be scared to fight it so they would convert, hence making it larger and depleting numbers of resistance to the point where no good cats could do anything... so they would revert to being rouges and loners so Tigerclan would control most of the forest. The loner population would decrease by lots and I feel as though somehow bloodclan would be drawn into the mess somehow.

[Caligo Everton]

I think that the same thing that happened in the lion king when scar took over. XD

[Galaxy Of Wisdom]

I agree with celestial on that however I somehow feel that many some small force will rebel against him. Most likely bloodclan would probably be against this since Scourge did a bit of a past with Tigerstar and seeing these new cats trying to take over what’s his with the very cat who changed him on top I believe Scourge would probably be the first force to go against tigerstar

[Timbergrowl]

Celestial, Caligo Everton, Sasukewolf (madness)

I agree with a few things in each case, however your missing a point. Tigerstar was only ruthless against ThunderClan because Firestar was still alive. When he took over ShadowClan he built that clan up from a sick clan. Sasukewolf, you say there would be rebellion and one of the first to attack TigerClan would be Scourge. Now remember, Tigerstar promised The BloodClan leader half of the forest. They would have had to fight and Kill scourge and bloodclan anyway. And they really only had to get and kill one cat to make Bloodclan dissolve. TigerClan would have won the battle against Bloodclan and I believe would have been better off. This is my own opinion but Tigerstar wanted to make TigerClan great and his vision of only one clan that shared the clans territory was a good idea. His only flaw is he did it forcibly.

[Caligo Everton]

Celestial, Caligo Everton, Sasukewolf (madness)

I agree with a few things in each case, however your missing a point. Tigerstar was only ruthless against ThunderClan because Firestar was still alive. When he took over ShadowClan he built that clan up from a sick clan. Sasukewolf, you say there would be rebellion and one of the first to attack TigerClan would be Scourge. Now remember, Tigerstar promised The BloodClan leader half of the forest. They would have had to fight and Kill scourge and bloodclan anyway. And they really only had to get and kill one cat to make Bloodclan dissolve. TigerClan would have won the battle against Bloodclan and I believe would have been better off. This is my own opinion but Tigerstar wanted to make TigerClan great and his vision of only one clan that shared the clans territory was a good idea. His only flaw is he did it forcibly.

I love tigerstar. :heartbounce:

[wren]

Celestial, Caligo Everton, Sasukewolf (madness)

I agree with a few things in each case, however your missing a point. Tigerstar was only ruthless against ThunderClan because Firestar was still alive. When he took over ShadowClan he built that clan up from a sick clan. Sasukewolf, you say there would be rebellion and one of the first to attack TigerClan would be Scourge. Now remember, Tigerstar promised The BloodClan leader half of the forest. They would have had to fight and Kill scourge and bloodclan anyway. And they really only had to get and kill one cat to make Bloodclan dissolve. TigerClan would have won the battle against Bloodclan and I believe would have been better off. This is my own opinion but Tigerstar wanted to make TigerClan great and his vision of only one clan that shared the clans territory was a good idea. His only flaw is he did it forcibly.

true but overtime once he has succeeded in taking the thunderclan, greed would take his heart like most villains would. Feeling great for a while as he ruled over everything he always wanted than seeing windclan being all peaceful would make him itch... it would be the one thing he couldn’t control so ultimately all villains want all parts of the plan fullproof with no obvious failure, so everything is accounted for. So he would take over most of the forest if not all of it like I had said originally

[Timbergrowl]

Yes Tigerstar was ambitious and wanted to control the forest and the for clans but he never went after kits, He wasn't as bad as Brokenstar was and He only went after Halfbloods because they broke the warrior code. Those who have done so in his mind is disloyal. And since all four clans would be one that rule goes away. we'd see more and more cats fall in love and don't break the code because Tigerstar pretty much eliminated that possibility. (Except for outsiders) Firestar who was not born in a clan got in the way of his plan and that's why he was so ruthless against ThunderClan. Lots of cats can be ruthless and some cats choose not to be, Because Firestar kept surviving his traps Tigerstar became more ruthless and desperate to kill him.

[Timbergrowl]

true but overtime once he has succeeded in taking the thunderclan, greed would take his heart like most villains would. Feeling great for a while as he ruled over everything he always wanted than seeing windclan being all peaceful would make him itch... it would be the one thing he couldn’t control so ultimately all villains want all parts of the plan fullproof with no obvious failure, so everything is accounted for. So he would take over most of the forest if not all of it like I had said originally
Yes I get this but what im asking specifically is that what wold happen if Tigerclan was already made and the four clans were all dissolved? what do u think would happen then?

[Timbergrowl]

I love tigerstar. :heartbounce: I love Tigerstar to he's actually tied to be my second favorite.

[Caligo Everton]

I love Tigerstar to he's actually tied to be my second favorite.
Tigerstar hawkfrost hollywhatshername scourge and mapleshade are all tied as my favs. XD

[Timbergrowl]

Tigerstar hawkfrost hollywhatshername scourge and mapleshade are all tied as my favs. XD

For my Villains this is my list

1. Mapleshade
2. Tigerstar or Darktail
3. Breezepelt
4. Scourge


For my warrior cats

1. Ivypool
2. Stonefur
3. Twigbranch or Violetshine
4. Hawkwing or Sharpfang

[Caligo Everton]

For my Villains this is my list

1. Mapleshade
2. Tigerstar or Darktail
3. Breezepelt
4. Scourge


For my warrior cats

1. Ivypool
2. Stonefur
3. Twigbranch or Violetshine
4. Hawkwing or Sharpfang
YAS ivypool I like nettlewhathername (can’t remeber the names bc it’s been so longggggg)

[Timbergrowl]

YAS ivypool I like nettlewhathername (can’t remeber the names bc it’s been so longggggg) You mean Needletail?

[Caligo Everton]

You mean Needletail?
Yes.

[Timbergrowl]

Yes. I like her too! she's my fifth fav warrior!

[BEAR.]

What do you think would have happened if Tigerstar succeeded in making TigerClan?

Who would have died and who would still be alive if this had happened?

Please give me your complete honest answer about what you think would have happened.
Sasukewolf (madness) Swiftheart


Pretty much none of the ThunderClan cats in the last few arcs would be alive (given half of them are descended from Firestar, who would've likely been offed by Tigerstar). I don't think TigerClan would've caused as much damage to the forest as others may believe. A huge amount of what Tigerstar was doing was in the hopes of bringing the Clans together as one unit under him. All the violence and bloodshed was means to an end.

Unfortunately, the issue with bringing the Clans together is that so many of the cats were raised to be enemies. There'd be too many tensions within the faction for it to take off, and it's likely the combined Clan would break apart from the inside. It's possible they could've formed the other Clans again, with new leaders to oppose him. Cue the introduction of BloodClan and Tigerstar's brutal demise at the paws of a shrimp.